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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
1st March February 2012
Latest post 09-06-2010 10:51 AM by Peter. 21 replies.
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09-02-2010 11:03 PM
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beotexas


- Joined on 09-03-2010
- Posts 14

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Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
Hi all, have enjoyed all the great info here for the past few weeks
and now I speak! I owned the BG4002, 5500 stackables, and even a Beolink
7000 years ago. I have no B&O now. I actually just received a
MCPanel 6500 today (ebay US). It's very clean and supposed to work. I
just wanted a B&O item in the house for now!
Now, I have an appt to audition a BM6ooo (80s) with remote, a
BGram8000, and S45, S75 speaker pairs w/stands, all from original owner, in
boxes,cables, manuals. Not sure of working condition, but I think
cosmetically very good. I was not aware of these models before, and never had any
B&O speakers. I now have read about them here and like the 6000 and
could use some speakers. but I'd rather have a BG4xxx. I understand some of the age/repair iissues.
For the right price I might take it all, but depends on condition and
owners willingness to deal. He's had them boxed a way for a while, but I like that he is the original purchaser. I'm thinking the BM6000 is kinda hard to find, esp in Texas.
Mostly just wanted to share, as I know no one here who has B&O anymore. Not totally decided what I would do with these pieces, it's almost enough just to look at them if they are not working! I guess I'm obsessed. Funny when I had the pieces I mention in the 80s I loved using them but didn't feel as eager as I do now to have me some B&O again. crazy, maybe, but excited. thanks.
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alenvprekrsku



- Joined on 05-25-2009
- Slovenia, Ljubljana
- Posts 426

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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
Hello @beotexas. Welcome to the forum. We are also crazy about B & O.
Greetings.
Alen 
BS 1, BeoCom 2, 2x LC 2, Form 2, BS 2, BS 3, 2x Beo 4, BS 5, BM 5, BL 5,Beo 6, BS 6, 2x A8, BV 8-40, BL 8000, 3x A9 Keyring, Serenata, BeoTime, BeoTalk 400
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Peter


- Joined on 02-12-2007
- Posts 9,572

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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
Very nice system on offer. The Beomaster 6000 is an excellent sounding
receiver though make sure both channels are working! The Beogram is one
of B&O's best though may well need a service. The speakers are some
of my favourites - the S45-2 is one of the best speakers made by B&O
- I take it that it is the single grille model - the later twin grille
is not the same at all! The S75 is the S45s bigger brother; actually not
quite so accurate with a slightly blousy bass but I like them a lot. An excellent Hi-Fi system to cherish!
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beotexas


- Joined on 09-03-2010
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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
Hi, thanks so much for your input. It just says S45 and S75, but I assume? they were all bought at the same time. THe picture he posted shows 2 matching speakers, one larger. both have 2 angled planes in the grill that indent to the center, rosewood box, and aluminum square shaped stands.
-just did a google search and see some s45 pix. the one seller has shows no white line in the center of grill, all one solid dark grill with the indent in both the smaller S45 and larger s75 speaker.. but seller used a stock photo, so not totally sure what he has. I think the picture is of the earlier S45, matches the larger S75 exactly.
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Rich



- Joined on 07-10-2010
- Orlando, Florida, USA
- Posts 1,089

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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
Welcome Texas from Florida.
I adore my S45-2s. Listening to some vinyl with them right now. Just bought a second BM2400 to restore (waiting on delivery). My current Holy Grail is The Precious! I must have The Precious!!! (Er, that is, I would very much like to own a Beomaster 4401 some day.)
Anyway, if you do decide to buy the lot and find the S75s aren't your cup of tea, I'd happily buy them from you. I need another Beovox restoration project!!! And The Precious!
Current primary listening: SMMC20EN -> BG4002 -> BM4000 -> Beovox M70
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Jandyt



- Joined on 04-01-2007
- Clitheroe, Lancashire, UK
- Posts 13,004

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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
Nice trumpet stands, Peter!
Andy T.
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vikinger


- Joined on 04-16-2008
- Vestri Kirkjubyr, UK
- Posts 2,839

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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
Hi beotexas! Just to add to the comments above I wouldn't personally make too much of a distinction between S45's and S45-2's: they're both excellent and very similar speakers without the dreaded foam rot issues. As Peter says, probably best to avoid the later rot prone S45's with the split frets.
Just listening to my S45's now: unbelievable quality sound (from 70's Beomaster 2000 and Radio Paradise via a Roku NRadio unit.)
Graham
I used to be indecisive, now I'm not so sure. [W C Fields]
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Medogsfat



- Joined on 02-21-2007
- *Moderator* Leeds, Yorkshire
- Posts 4,045

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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
I've always prefered the look of the split fret of the S45's but the S45.2's are a better bet between the 2 models. Personally I've always had a soft spot for the S55's, very underrated & much overlooked by many in the 'S' range.
Chris.
The use of metaphors should be avoided like the plague. They're like a red rag to a bull to me.
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Medogsfat



- Joined on 02-21-2007
- *Moderator* Leeds, Yorkshire
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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
Peter :
For size comparison, here is a picture of some S45-2s, some S75s and some S60s.
You missed the S30's? on the shelf (above left) Peter
Chris.
The use of metaphors should be avoided like the plague. They're like a red rag to a bull to me.
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beotexas


- Joined on 09-03-2010
- Posts 14

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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
Hi, site not iPad friendly?
so there were maybe 3 s45 versions? Orig 3 driver ones called s45 then a s45-2' then in the 80s the 2 speaker, split grill s45?
Yikes, the more I research the more confusing it gets on the s45.
I Had to go to the HTML source editor link to type in on the iPad, I'm away from my home Mac mini. Hope to see the items tomorrow!,
Thanks all!!
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elephant



- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Melbourne, Australia
- Posts 2,215

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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
beotexas:I Had to go to the HTML source editor link to type in on the iPad,
or go to edit your profile to switch modes - second tab, site options:
First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*
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burantek


- Joined on 05-04-2007
- SE USA
- Posts 6,214

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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
beotexas:Yikes, the more I research the more confusing it gets on the s45.
Welcome to the site!
To keep it simple w/ S45's...
There were (2) versions of the single fret. (early)
There was (1) version of the double fret. (later)
Just look for the single fret model(s) -that is what you want. The BEST bang for the buck product B&o ever made, IMHO! 
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Peter


- Joined on 02-12-2007
- Posts 9,572

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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
Agree - the S45 and S45-2 were much the same in performance - the S45-2 has the flat back and extra metal trim. These two are three way speakers. The later S45 from the later Uniphase models is a two way speaker and replaced the S30 in the range. The nomenclature changed partly due to B&O recalculating power outputs and hence having to increase the power handling of the speakers - or at least the figures given! Nothing wrong with the later S45 - it is probably pretty similar to the S30 but it is nothing like its earlier namesake. The S45-2 is outrageously good for what it appears to be.
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beotexas


- Joined on 09-03-2010
- Posts 14

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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
Thanks, mode was set on advanced, I just looked, but have to post in the HTML mode.
Anyway, what USD price range would cosmetically pristine BG8000, BM6000, and the early s45 and s75 speakers go for, never refurbed etc, assume they work but will know tomorrow when I check them out. Orig owner, boxes, stands, manuals. I know value equals what a buyer is willing to pay.
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elephant



- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Melbourne, Australia
- Posts 2,215

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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
beotexas:Thanks, mode was set on advanced, I just looked, but have to post in the HTML mode
apologies for being cryptic !
if you set it to "plain text" then you can post easily from an iPad or iTouch/iPhone ...
I have also used your tip of touching "HTML" on the message icon line ... which launches a separate Safari window, and provided I keep entering < BR > tags I get a good enough post ... useful for ad hoc posts
But if I plan a "big" Beoworld session from my iPad I switch to "plain text" instead
First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*
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beotexas


- Joined on 09-03-2010
- Posts 14

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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
Working fine now in plain txt mode, I assumed iPad needed enhanced mode.
I see some s45-2s just got put on ebay US.
Something I didn't mention is I bought a beocenter 9000 (the cass/cd all-in-one) on ebay US and then read about the cd issues here and how complicated a machine it is and seller is allowing me to back out if I want, so I'm telling him tomorrow after I see the bm6000 set. The 9000 was $500 USD but included a beolink 1000 too, all working, but I worry about shipping and if I'm ready for the cost/complication of that machine. It looks beautiful tho. I am crazy for a b&o piece! And want to start a collection fast, but I need to go slower I guess. I have been researching for over a month.
Ps- do avatars have to be a certain size? I read the FAQs and elsewhere but don't see info on it.
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elephant



- Joined on 04-16-2007
- Melbourne, Australia
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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
beotexas:Ps- do avatars have to be a certain size? I read the FAQs and elsewhere but don't see info on it.
I believe they get squished automatically provided they are not too large ... certainly I have not had to adjust my latest which was 8KB and 270x270 or the ones before that at 66KB and 320x480 pixels and 82KB at 464x629
First B&O (1976) was a Beogram 1500 ... latest (2011) change has been to couple the BL11 with the BL6Ks *sounds superb*
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beotexas


- Joined on 09-03-2010
- Posts 14

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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
I passed on the system. The smaller speakers were not S45, but S55 and had foam rot. Rest of system was exc cosmetically. BM6000 had vol issues, BG8000 had needle drop issues. but the main reason I passed is it's not exactly what I want and repairs would double the cost. I probably could have ebayed it in parts and made money, but not feeling like doing that either.
I also have an option to buy a Beocenter 9000 (CD/cass all-in-one) and Beolink1000 that is described as working for $500 USD but can't decide either. I know these are high maintenance and many people scrap them due to the CD repair issues. Any thoughts on what it is worth?
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Evan



- Joined on 12-15-2008
- Ohio | USA
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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
Hello Beotexas, and welcome.
I read somewhere recently that the amplifier section is not very good in the 9000 (maybe it was the 8500? ...wish I could remember which thread it was). Based on that, I would only use that system with active speakers. If you want passive speakers, go with a Beomaster based system like the 6000/8000, or seperates/stackables.
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Peter


- Joined on 02-12-2007
- Posts 9,572

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Re: Newbie here but with a B&O history - love this site
The amplifier in the 9000, 8500, 9500 etc is fine. It is not as good as the 7000 or 8000 but is actually much the same as the amplifier in the MCL2P. I would say that is is not the most dynamic amp i can think of but is fine as long as you don't expect it to drive some weird speakers! Remember that most of what we listen to will rarely need more than single figures of watts per channel - and usually about 1! The problem with the 9000 is the CD player and the CD clamp.
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