Hello All

I have my MK4 setup now

I have two bluray players connceted internal and external

when i put the same film on both players i notice differences

Both report a 60Hz input but as for sound

when the panasonic is connected it displays the input as dolby and output as 5.1 dolby digital

the internal player reports the sound as 5.1 multichannel is this ok?

am i still getting dolby and why does the internal not get seen as DD???

the film i have just put in shows DTS 5.1 when put in the panasonic and when put in the internal blu ray it shows as multichannel 5.1

I will keep all of my MK4 questions here rather than starting many new threads.

Also how do you provoke the tv to do its update for the bluray via the web? Is this automatic or do you press something?

I find the panning i did not liek in MK3 has been eliminated so far.

I also find that the pic looks bitty / graney on the white area's

The internal player is probably decoding the sound & then sending it as PCM via the hdmi where as the Pana is sending the raw unencided sound & the BS3 is then decoding.

If you look at the specs of the internal player it can decoded quite a lot of HD sound formats & it will send these as PCM to the BS3 via HDMI to be preamped for the active speakers.

You will probably need to dleve into the service menu to find out the options for the player.

oh right well that would explain why the output just shows as multi rather than the actual format

i cannot find any settings for bd player or how to access the bd player settings screen

does this drive support bluray live?

According to the specs it does.

DESIGNER	David Lewis
DIMENSIONS (W x H x D)/WEIGHT	108.0 x 68.0 x 18.0 cm + stand/45 kg
COLOUR(S)	Cabinet/frame: / / / / / / / Cabinet/Frame: Black/black, black/blue, black/dark grey, black/red, black/silver, black/golden, white/silver
CONTRAST SCREEN	Contrast screen with anti-reflection coating on both sides
MAINS VOLTAGE RANGE	200-240 V +10/-15%, 50-60 Hz
THEFT PROTECTION FEATURE	Pincode
PICTURE FORMATS	Format 1: 16:9  Panorama - 15:9  Panorama - 4:3 Format 2: Letterbox + Soft Scroll Format 3: 16:9 Automatic format optimisation via ""Black Bar Detection"" 16:9 detection on all Scart connectors Support of WSS (Wide Screen Signalling pulses) from broadcaster
HDMI INPUT FORMAT	480p,576p, 600p, 768p, 576i, 480i, 720p, 1080i, 1080p
VGA INPUT FORMAT	60 Hz 640 × 480, 848 × 480, 1024 × 576, 800 × 600, 1024 × 768, 1366 × 768 and 1280 × 720
DIGITAL SURROUND SOUND MODULE	Standard built-in
SOUND INPUT FORMATS	PCM, multichannel PCM  Dolby Digital, Dolby Digital EX, DTS, DTS ES.
DIGITAL SOUND DRCODING CAPABILITES	Dolby Digital 5.1/EX 7.1, Dolby Pro Logic llx. DTS 5.1/ES 6.1/Neo:6
SCREEN TYPE	40" 16:9 TFT LCD, glare surface
BACKLIGHT TYPE	Cold Cathode Fluorescent Lamp (CCFL)
RESOLUTION	1920 x 1080 (Full HD)
REFRESH RATE	200 Hz/240 Hz
LUMINANCE OF WHITE (CENTRE OF SCREEN)	Typical: 500 cd/m2
CONTRAST RATIO (CENTRE OF SCREEN)	Typical 4000:1
RESPONSE TIME (GREY TO GREY)	Typical 6 msec.
VIEWING ANGLE	+/-89 degrees both vertically and horizontally
PICTURE OPTIMISATION	VisionClear
ROOM ADAPTATION	Automatic Picture Control
CONTRAST ENHANCEMENT	Global backlight dimming
MOTION PICTURE IMPROVEMENT	Adaptive film judder compensation
VIDEO TYPE / FORMAT	Analogue: B/G/L/L/I/D/K PAL, SECAM (According to type and setup), NTSC on AV.
FREQUENCY RANGE	45 - 860 MHz: VHF, S-band, Hyper-band, UHF 99 programmes, auto tune, programme move and automatic naming
ANALOGUE STEREO DECODING CAPABILITIES	A2 + Nicam Stereo
AERIAL INPUT CONNECTION(S)	TV: 1 x IEC-con female
DIGITAL TUNER T/C	Optional
VIDEO TYPE / FORMAT	DVB-HD module, DVB T/C, MPEG2/4, HD reception, EPG, Common Interface for Conditional Access and embedded CONAX (card pairing not supported) required for (de-)scrambling pay TV
AUDIO TYPE / FORMAT	MPEG1, 2-channel audio decoder, layer 1& 2 MPEG2, 2-channel audio decoder, layer 2 AAC, AAC+ AC3 decoding and down mix
LOUDSPEAKER	External (recommended: BeoLab 7-4 for centre or BeoLab 7-2 for stereo. Ordered separately)
IR CONTROL OUTPUTS (PUC)	6 x mini-jack
ANALOGUE VIDEO CONNECTIONS	AV 1 to AV6 (AV4 used for integrated Blu-ray)
AV1	Video in/out + SPDIF + audio L/R in/out + PUC
AV2	YPbPr + SPDIF + Video in/out + audio L/R in/out + PUC
AV3	YPbPr + SPDIF + Video in + audio L/R in + PUC
AV4	For built-in disc player
AV5	VGA + Video in + SPDIF+ Audio L/R + PUC
AV6	S-video + Video in + SPDIF + audio L/R in + PUC
OUTPUT (RECORD OUT)	2 x CVBS, 2 x L/R
PC INPUT	VGA / HDMI
DIGITAL VIDEO CONNECTIONS	4* x HDMI (*one used for Blu-ray player + one used for DVB-HD) Free configurable with AV1 to AV6
DIGITAL SOUND CONNECTIONS	5 x RCA phono, one dedicated for each AV connection
LOUDSPEAKER OUTPUTS	7 x Power Link
STEREO HEADPHONES	1 x mini-jack
MOTORISED STAND CONNECTION	5 pin DIN connector
BEOLINK	Master Link
VIDEO DISTRIBUTION	BeoLink video distribution (system modulator output to link room) via RF
AUDIO DISTRIBUTION	Stereo audio distribution via Master Link
PERIPHERAL UNIT CONTROLLER	Integrated Peripheral Unit/Set-top Box Controller:  Controlling 6 units
SPLIT SCREEN	Picture and picture Picture and teletext
TELETEXT	Teletext level 2.5 approx. 2048 pages  9 memory pages per programme
SPEAKER MODES	Speaker modes 1-5: Mode 1: Stereo centre speakers (subwoofer muted)  Mode 2: Stereo in L/R speakers (subwoofer is active) Mode 3: Dolby 3 stereo  Mode 4: Dual stereo, stereo in L/R front and rear speakers (subwoofer is active)  Mode 5: Dolby digital, Dolby Pro-logic, DTS, Dolby 7.1
MENU LANGUAGES	English, Danish, Dutch, Spanish, Italian, German, French, Swedish
HOME CINEMA	Standard built-in
FRONT PROJECTOR CONNECTION	1 x DVI-D
HOME CINEMA CONTROL CONNECTION	2 x IR outputs for control of external functions1 x D-sub 9 male output for control of external functions
EXTERNAL IR RECEIVER	1x mini-jack (without automatic picture control)
BLU-RAY DISC PLAYER	Optional
BD-LIVE	Yes, BD-Live profile 2.0
BD-JAVA	Yes
INTERNAL MEMORY	2 GB
SUPPORTED DISC FORMATS (PLAY BACK)	BD-ROM, BD-R/RE, DVD-ROM, Audio CD, CD-R/RW (CD-DA only), DVD-R/RW
SUPPORTED AUDIO DECODING FORMATS (FROM DISC)	Dolby Digital 5.1/EX 6.1/EX 7.1/Dolby Digital Plus 7.1/True HD 7.1. DTS 5.1/ES 6.1 MPEG audio L1, L2 LPCM, 7.1ch multi-channel PCM
DVD/BD REGION	According to type
ETHERNET	1 x RJ45 (BD-Live and firmware update)
PLACEMENT OPTIONS	Motorised stand low (BeoLab 7-2) Motorised floor stand high vertical (BeoLab 7-4) Motorised floor stand high horizontal (BeoLab 7-2) Motorised wall bracket Fixed wall bracket for TV - close (BeoLab 7-2/BeoLab 7-4) STB Cover large STB Cover small
REMOTE CONTROL	Beo5 (recommended) or Beo4 - Optional

According to the specs it does

ok i am now at the disk menu, i have to press yellow 8 to get to the menu with no disk in the drive

if i select software update it says remove disk to update software. (no disk is in the drive)

i have also changed the audio to bitstream and now it shows the format of what is on rather than multi channel

i prefer this as i can quickly flick between the menu's

next job - check for updates

it says press green to check but then says remove disk be check for updates.

NB The panning that i used to hate on the MK3 seems to have gone but i will put the projector on a test when my other half gets back from rental shop.

Panning is vastly improved on the projector also.

i think if i sit here with menu after menu anymore tonight i might get a slap.

Where is this so called USB port for updates??

I dont think this TV has HD Freeview as i cannot seem to see usb port

Seanie_230:

i have also changed the audio to bitstream and now it shows the format of what is on rather than multi channel

i prefer this as i can quickly flick between the menu's

Fairly sure that the BS3 doesn't support Dolby TrueHD, so by doing this you have stopped the player doing the decoding.  There will be no HD audio from any bluray disk that has a TrueHD stream - it will just decode the encapsulated DD stream.

If I were you, I'd leave it as it was.

ahhh i never thought of that i will change it back over then the player can decode the signal so all the bs3 has to do is pass the pcm to the bs3