Hello everyone,

I've just bought on eBay, for 2 pounds (!), a nice Beocord 6000 (IEC). It was supposedly dead, but it works thanks to a new motor fuse!
The belts are new it seems (although the previous owner left some black gunk around pulleys and flywheel, yuck), and everything works as it should.  The mechanism I find superb, compared to my other one-motor tape decks.
Even the display is faultless, and the heads show very little use. Condition is superb, apart from the odd chip on the woodwork.
I had a noise from the mechanism which came from part n°12135 (clutch) which is unfortunately cracked (the plastic around the bearing). Also, fast forward didn't work at all. I added a teflon washer between the idler and the bearing to calm down the rattling noise but the part is due for a change I guess. With the added washer, FF now works nicely (but not as fast as rewind), the "go" timer adjustment works perfectly.

Do you think the part is available?

Thanks,

Jacques

hi

Do you have a photo?

Thanks for your time!

This is actually a (bad) copy from the service manual:

Hello

I've had the same problem, on some units I removed the rubber ring and put into his groove just a bit of teflon tape and then remounted the rubber ring. Try to clear the other rubber weels and clean the 12135 metal axe.

Put attention, don't fit too much teflon or you have to adjust the play speed due the different perifeal speed.

If this doesn't solve the problem let me know and send here some photo, ok?

ciao ciao

Eugenio

Thanks Eugenio.

My real problem is that the bearing housing is actually cracked, almost broken all along, well beyond repair. I know about the teflon trick, but the rubber is fine on my unit. I just need a new part really !

Hello everyone,

Sorry to call again... I know I'm being thick.

So nobody has the part then?

Merry Christmas to you all.

Jacques

Patience, Jacques. I waited more than six months for the new CPU for my Beomaster 5000 to surface here, and at least that long to find a new CD module for my BC8000 on eBay.

This part you're looking for may just be something that nobody will have laying in a junk box - why would anyone remove it and keep it? You'll need to wait for a BC6000 to get junked and hit then, I suppose, or buy a complete BC6000 for parts...

tournedos:

You'll need to wait for a BC6000 to get junked

HOLD THAT THOUGHT!

Jacques,

I happen to have a BC6000 that is sitting dormant. I used it to scavenge other parts from. The entire cassette mechanism is complete though! If you could give me ~24 hours, I will be happy to pull it apart and I should be able to provide whatever you need, so long as it is not broken also. I would like to try and keep the cosmetic shell intact for another project. If all is OK, the cost is free.

Regards,

Well, there you go - it does help to make some noise as well

Hope you get the part from Jaff

Update...

I pulled the BC out and looked down... it is a BC8000, so for the second time in as many weeks -I have screwed up listing what I had!

Anyway, that is the bad news!

The good news is that as far as I can tell from the manual, the parts are identical! (can anyone confirm?)

Also, from the Jarman's Beocentral... the 8000 was apparently assembled from the highest performing components of the 6000 family.

I did go ahead and open it up and partially extracted the entire assembly, flipped it over, and all appears intact and unbroken!

I will wait to hear before proceeding any further.

Hello Jeff, Mika & Co,

Thanks for your time and generosity!

Yes I can confirm the BC 6000 and 8000 cores are identical, nut for nut.

Even the 8002 shares the same mech, but has HX-PRO.

My BC 6000 sounds really great with Dolby B, very little hiss being audible, and treble being clear and sonorous. 

So YES I am looking forward to your part, just hoping it's not noisy or broken like mine!

You can send me a PM for the details of course, when you have some spare time that is!

Cheers,

Jacques

chartz:

You can send me a PM for the details of course, when you have some spare time that is!

Jacques,

No big deal. How about if I send off the whole mechanism (complete) to you? It is not very big, maybe a little heavy. That way you can have spares for the future, or perhaps just plug and play, though it certainly needs belts.

I will PM/email you now for your address! Do not post anything personal here! 

That's very nice Jeff. Thanks a lot. Email received!

Nice to see Beoworlders help eachother !

One note though; If you swap the whole mech. section, you will have to re-adjust practically all settings
in the whole machine.
Levels, Bias etc. It will all be different with the new tapehead(s).

Martin

Thanks for the tip, Martin. I won't!

Dillen:

If you swap the whole mech. section, you will have to re-adjust practically all settings
in the whole machine.

Nothing is ever easy!

Not if done corretly, is isn't. 

You know, the lazy repairer will make it right the first time.

Anyway, in case you absolutely have to replace the whole mechanical section, you can dismount
the tapeheads and let them follow the machine with the matching PCB boards rather than the mech. section.
That way you will "only" have to readjust the heads (a couple of screws), not the whole machine.

Martin

Hi everyone,

Well Jeff had found the part for me (many thanks again for bothering) but it seems to present the same problem as mine, that is a cracked bearing housing!

A common fault then?

chartz:

Hi everyone,

Well Jeff had found the part for me (many thanks again for bothering) but it seems to present the same problem as mine, that is a cracked bearing housing!

A common fault then?

Indeed... unfortunately mine was broken identically to his. Per his request, here is a pic of mine. I am going to attempt a repair.

burantek:

I am going to attempt a repair.

Hey!

Good news on this front. After unsuccessfully rummaging thru my spares boxes... I sourced what I needed at the local hobby store.

As time permits, I will post what I believe will be a valid repair. Fingers crossed!

Hi Jeff,

Looking forward to seeing what you will have done!

Jacques

Me too.
It's always interesting when a solution to a general and stubborn problem is found.

Martin

Dillen:

Me too.
It's always interesting when a solution to a general and stubborn problem is found.

Martin

Oh dear! My hammer and chisel repairs don't quite compare to your laser and scalpel repairs! Be prepared to be bored!

1.) I have pinpointed the termini of both cracks w/ some red paint. The cracks are entirely thru the wall.

2.) With a No.2 pencil in the background for scale (not very good, as this was a pretty close focus -the part is smaller than it seems in the pic)... I used a jeweler's drill to create two crack propagation traps.

3.) Now for what I sourced at the hobby store... K&S Engineering brass tube (11/32 x .014) Stock #1152. Two pieces chopped at about 5 degrees. If this had not been cracked, this would not have fit! Because of the material expansion, this size ended up being a perfect press fit... so much so that I all I had to do was tap it home with a jeweler's hammer. There was no need to dress or tooth the material as it was really that tight and helped to close up the gap significantly!