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ARCHIVED FORUM -- April 2007 to March 2012 READ ONLY FORUM
This is the first Archived Forum which was active between 17th April 2007 and
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11-17-2008 8:49 AM
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soundchoice70


- Joined on 08-07-2008
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Connection to Phono Input
Hi All, I would like to connect an additional source (not a turntable) to my Phono input and I have seen on Ebay there is a device that you can get to deal with the magnitised phono inputs... Do I actually even need such a device? If so, what is this device called and does anyone know where I can get this (other than ebay)? Would prefer to buy from reputable source if possible. Thanks in advance.
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PhilLondon


- Joined on 04-16-2007
- London
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Re: Connection to Phono Input
Which B&O hifi have you got? Some of them have a line level entry which would not need any adaptor. p.
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soundchoice70


- Joined on 08-07-2008
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Re: Connection to Phono Input
Hi Phil, Its a BM6000 225x (1980's) model. Trust you are able to assist. Thanks.
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burantek


- Joined on 05-04-2007
- SE USA
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Re: Connection to Phono Input
the 6000 of that vintage should have both the din and "rca style" inputs...
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soundchoice70


- Joined on 08-07-2008
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Re: Connection to Phono Input
Hi Jeff, Yes it does.... so does that mean I can connect directly to the RCA connections?
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burantek


- Joined on 05-04-2007
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Re: Connection to Phono Input
as i understand it -if not using a bg6000 or similar -you can plug into the PH din using an adapator or straight in the rca inputs, BUT not both at the same time... perhaps the T2 (which is all rca) may be better for what you are trying to attach -which is?
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Puncher



- Joined on 03-27-2007
- Nr. Durham, NE England.
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Re: Connection to Phono Input
soundchoice70: Hi Jeff, Yes it does.... so does that mean I can connect directly to the RCA connections?
No - because the BM6000 phono Din/RCA inputs have the RIAA amp/compensation built in. This means that the input level is very low (millivolts rather than volts) and the frequency response will be distorted by the RIAA equalisation.
Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.
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burantek


- Joined on 05-04-2007
- SE USA
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Re: Connection to Phono Input
thx puncher... hmmm... T2 then??? what are you trying to attach?
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soundchoice70


- Joined on 08-07-2008
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Re: Connection to Phono Input
... well, currently I have an Ipod connected to the TP1 and TP2 has the TV / DVD connected to it... So, what I wanted to actually do is move the TV/DVD to the PH input so I can select between sources using the remote... So would this work ... as I mentioned earlier I thought the inputs / etc were maginetised and or more sensitive for the PH input...
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burantek


- Joined on 05-04-2007
- SE USA
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Re: Connection to Phono Input
aha! the remote has no TP2! well, as puncher pointed out... the PH connectors will have the riaa on them -i don't think this will work...but!!! i have used TP1/2 for an ipod and 8004 but have never tried to connect anything but a 'gram to the PH, so i will recuse myself at this point and see how it goes... ++++ed++++ of course, you could always disable the riaa in the bm if you don't plan on using a bg! -uggh!
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soundchoice70


- Joined on 08-07-2008
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Re: Connection to Phono Input
Yes... 'aha' indeed ... as you would understand its not a big issue, but was hoping that someone knows the answer ....
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Steve at Sounds Heavenly



- Joined on 05-18-2007
- In the cable workshop, Melton Mowbray, UK
- Posts 356

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Re: Connection to Phono Input
Yes, you can make an iPod work through the Phono input via the RIAA amplifier/equalisation, but it won't sound good. Why not? Because the RIAA section alters the balance to suit records, which will mess up the sound of the iPod. Basically, you can connect this way (turn the volume down low on the iPod) to "get you by" for a while, but it is much better to either remove the RIAA section in the Beomaster 6000 or use a Tape input (if one is spare). Best regards, Steve.
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soundchoice70


- Joined on 08-07-2008
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Re: Connection to Phono Input
Hi Steve, Thanks, altho I'm currently connected through both TP inputs, so it was really that I was trying to find out if the PH input is possible at all . So if i want to connect to the PH is this possible using something like the item in the link below (sorry its very long) to the product I refered to earlier in my post... It apparently allows you to connect to the phono input. Not having any knowledge on this sort of thing I was wondering if this will actually work .... And more importantly was hoping to be able to get it from somewhere where the quality is more assured. I have tried to search but no luck as yet. http://cgi.ebay.com/Bang-Olufsen-Type-Phono-Line-Adapter-L-K_W0QQitemZ160299315761QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_DefaultDomain_0?hash=item160299315761&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1205%7C66%3A3%7C65%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318 Well thanks everyone so far for all the replies...
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soundchoice70


- Joined on 08-07-2008
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Re: Connection to Phono Input
Hi Steve, I'm sorry, I just realised that you are probably just the person to help / advise me on this, as I just clicked on your website to have a look. What do you think? Do you have anything similar? I couldn't see on your site. Look forward to your advice. Laurence
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Puncher



- Joined on 03-27-2007
- Nr. Durham, NE England.
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Re: Connection to Phono Input
Hi Laurence, It seems the device you've highlighted is built to do exaclty what you need although I would still see it as a workaround rather than an ideal solution. At that price I would buy and try - if you're happy with the results then carry on
Generally speaking, you aren't learning much if your lips are moving.
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Steve at Sounds Heavenly



- Joined on 05-18-2007
- In the cable workshop, Melton Mowbray, UK
- Posts 356

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Re: Connection to Phono Input
Hi Laurence, I agree with Puncher - this device is probably worth a try. If these prove to be popular, I may start making them myself! I get more enquiries from people wanting to add a turntable to a new system without a built-in RIAA amp, rather than wanting to add a line input via a phono connection, but I'm always interested to find out what type of equipment you want to connect to your B&O system! Please let me know how you get on with this adapter, I will be interested to hear your views. Best regards, Steve.
Sounds Heavenly Cables are proud to be a sponsor of the BeoWorld Forum!
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soundchoice70


- Joined on 08-07-2008
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Re: Connection to Phono Input
Hi Puncher and Steve, Thanks for your input .. .well I wanted to move the connection (currently on TP2) for a Panasonic LCD which is used to watch TV and which also feeds the DVD player to play DVD/CDs to the system... Well I guess I'll give it a whirl and will definitely let you know how it goes... Will be in a few weeks before I can get to it though. Thanks again. Laurence.
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