I actually had the privilidge to listen one of the pre production Beolab 12-3's in the same place where there previously were BeoLab 1's and I would rate BeoLab 12-3 better in these areas :look, sound quality and BeoLab 1 only easier to install/facilitate. And yeah, better than BL3. Even better than BL8002, but it depends more on placement.

Well, actually you have 4x6.5" bass with 4x160W amps with BeoLab 12-3 and only 2x6,5" bass with 1x200W in BeoLab 11... BeoLab 1 is merely 2x6,5" bass with 2x400W so theoretically you could get more spl out of BL12-3 than BL1!

I would say that BL12-3 is more like BL3 with BL11, it's that powerful and has great extension. And no way a entry level speaker, maybe the smaller units that might follow (12-1 and 12-2) but this big wall speaker is serious stuff IMO.

Choose the ones that you can place properly. Both are really good speakers and it is the placement that will dictate real life sound quality especially with rear speakers. I would choose BL 12-3 as they are closer match to BL9's due both having acoustical lenses.

When I try to explain this stuff to men I refer to cars and ask this question. Does the engine from Dacia have the same performance as Ferrari as they both use Mahle pistons? Just look at this list from Mahle web page: MAHLE ENGINE COMPONENTS AND MAHLE FILTERS ARE USED IN VEHICLES AND ENGINES OF THE FOLLOWING BRANDS: Alfa Romeo, Audi, BMW, Case, Caterpillar

Is your A.OPT 0 and V.OPT 2? Any sound from headphone socket when using cd command?

My effort

mbee: That was funny :) I think that the BV12-65 is really good looking screen but it might take some time to get used to BeoLab 12 design. There are rumors about smaller BeoLab 12-2, does anyone have a picture of them?

With a different choice of accomodation you would of got plenty of B&O. Keep in mind when you are going to Levi next time. http://www.levispirit.fi/site/villas/ http://www.levispirit.fi/panorama/livingroom_en.html

It really is here and seems to work fine.