@dillen. why mention jacob??? hes not a brit. and yes i know what he achieved, i have had his creations and also have a bedside timer/alarm clock device beside my bed a more recent design of his...... this conversation started over a perceived insult to the british from soren mexico. and i was highlighting the greatness of my country and all great things

the english, irish, scottish and the welsh make up the united kingdom, we have been pioneers in every aspect of life, inventors, creators, discoverer's since the stonehenge era and beyond. yeah id say without reservation we are a truly civilised kingdom and have been for years. the only people in this country in the dark ages are the politicians

even so the clarkson comments were not reflective of the majority of this country. im very patriotic as coming from a military background on both sides of my family, way back to the doomsday book. caves? suggested we are still in the dark ages, limey's need i say more. and as for the grinning emoticon.... if i appear to be anal about it then i apoligize

@soren, why are you insulting us british???? in caves, problem on your planet??? these are the ramblings of a drunk, surely? lest not forget soren its a british man that designs the vast amount of the beo products we so lovingly adore and admire please dont insult me or my fellow countrymen by calling me/us limey's. if you insist on doing so at

@ soren, when you say limies (limey's) are you referring to the lack of vitamin c on the old naval fleets of the british?

@peter- i was one of the early birds on the old site (nokinnikon) i used to love being on that back then. i do understand what your saying.

i wonder if you could shoehorn that into any car?

have you left the beo4 on a different command? i know that i when i watch a dvd on the dvd1 and set up the sound to "speaker 2" via the beo4 and dont scroll back to dvd on the beo4, pushing the buttons does not yield anything other than command the request last used on the beo4.....just a thought.

they look stunning, i had a set of these with white frets, i purchased from bang and olufsen of willen some years ago, i put the frets into soak with silk washing solution and they came up a treat. i used autoglym wax for the cabinets. superb!

anyone got an STB wall bracket for sale? its for a beocentre 2300. i need to photograph my system for a competition, or a dvd1 bracket to go on an avant. i need to win a radio......