TripEnglish: Sorry, 355f, but missing the point is your department. Reducing a television to pure picture quality ignores the complex operating environment of modern video systems. Superb sound and single remote operation have existed in the B&O world since we first connected audio & video products. In the same post you quote (not just missing

TripEnglish: Just thought I'd point out that Toyota is going to be posting an FY loss. Toyota. And when Pioneer posted FY loss after FY loss until shutting down proprietary manufacturing this lot said "Thanks for the brilliant products, Pioneer!" The criticisms are all a bit self serving! Despite high prices, there is always a place for

Razlaw: Flappo The Grate: i'm not interested in freebies or offers or even cut prices i am however interested in buying something that should be at the very least if not cutting edge somewhere approaching relevancy the truth is is that bno's video products are very out of date and over priced for what you get no way is a bv9 worth over 5+ x

timhanna: Personally, it doesnt bother me much; worse case is that you just have to wait 2 years or so down the line and upgrade the LCD screen (not the TV) for a new one. Given B&O past record of upgradeability- best of luck with your view!

TripEnglish: No, actually I don't recall making that specific comment, though I do recall something about you're retirement from these sorts of arguments. I figured you were so dazzled by your Kuro that you'd forgotten about poor old Bang & Olufsen. How lucky we are to have you back. I look forward to future enlightenment. In fact I

TripEnglish: Or by building in a self calibrating camera system to perform a calibration every 100 hours. But who would go to such lengths? Some are getting carried away with B&O marketing nonsense and are comming up with so much rubbish on on this thread they begin to believe it themselves! The purpose of this silly camera gimmick is to alter the

each installation is unique. you can only calibrate with given sources

Peter2: B & O in Jersey likewise sell the Pioneer & Panasonic plasmas alongside the BV4's, and I agree with Razlaw that the BV4 picture is superior. With the BS3 and some Beolabs whats not to like? Except the price of course :) Firstly, the BV4 is calibrated from the factory. I have the pioneer kuro calibrated ( that costs £250) and

Razlaw: Puncher: In the UK the BV4-50, with BS3 and various stands brackets etc. is over £12,000 (still without sound). At quick glance on the 'net shows a Pioneer 50" Kuro (9th Gen) shows the cheapest price (in the first 3 hits) to be £2300. We can continue to argue about prices and specs. but the details don't matter (ref

They make the panels