[quote user="Dkatz"] I think the BS8 and Beolit 12 are a success.... [/quote] LOL. We should end the thread there.

[quote user="Jonathan"] What a stupid thread this is! It just goes round and round and round and round in circles [/quote] And Dkatz has to answer every single g*d d*mn reply. And they are starting to get silly - the discussion about pricing, coming from a company that's had to cut back significantly, was struggling to make money and Dkatz

[quote user="Dkatz"] Perhaps we have a more keen eye? [/quote] Nope, just more an*l, in more ways than one :)

[quote user="MartinW"]It can never be a floorstanding loudspeaker as it needs a wall behind it to create bass from the rear mounted speakers... [/quote] My dealer told me there WILL be a floorstanding version of the BL12s as B&O want it to compliment the BV10. He said it will follow, but I forgot ask how they'd handle the bass issue

[quote user="Puncher"] As it happens, I don't care for the Beolit 12 either - however it's because I don't like the design nor the materials selected. There is nothing about the one that I saw that intimated poor quality assembly. I could therefore blame the designer - however others seem to like it a lot. [/quote] I agree with

[quote user="Tod Daniel"]As regards to BS8 it sounds flat, cheap and pure rubbish the second it plays. Get over yourself BS8 customers, you are fooling yourself with this utter, utter garbish. Im sure Tue is laughing all the way to the bank at the idiots who buy this fake, out sourced pretentious filth!!! It's rubbish and an absolute laughing

[quote user="w5bno123"]Just to make a very quick point about QC, we have had one DOA out of the box BeoSound 8 since launch which equates to about 0.18% of sales from our showroom alone. That's not bad going!!! If only other products in today's world from Europe were as reliable... [/quote] Yes, unlike my Danish designed and built

Really like this BV12. Does anyone know the retail price im GBP or EUR? With and without the BL12s.

[quote user="Puncher"] In any case, all of the above is academic - B&O have made the move, it's success or otherwise will become apparent over the next year or two. It may lose a few customers along the way but if it manages to recruit a whole new demographic to the brand, hopefully with aspirations, it will be considered a great success

[quote user="Tod Daniel"] I think you're wrong there, from what I have observed, the younger, vibrant audience are simply not interested in this brand. The only die hard BS8 fans sem to be some of the traditional B&O customers. Nasty, cheaply made piece of junk. You think young people are going to be impressed by that? No, I didn't