thanks all for your input I may go with the 5000 as I know it was serviced less than a year ago as for buying more gear I may have to recover from my latest blunders and try to sell the unneeded bits first thanks again

the 7002 has the turntable and receiver all in one which I didn't much like the plastic cover is damaged and no needle and they are very expensive I am told

Hi all it's your newest and probably most confused and yes maybe stupidest member,I recently decided that I would drag out my record collection from the deep dark recesses of the cupboard but hey no record player, so I went on trademe [local ebay] and bought a beogram 3000 type 5905 and then the beomaster 4500 thinking it was just an amp, the word