mor: I was quite surprised about the need for a cable myself .. Cables! I'm surprised how many cables and 'socket boxes' are required by new B&O kit. My BS4 is a cable mess with the DAB and other cables out of the back.

KingOfSnake: Let me add my poll contribution now - IGNORE! Explain? Ignore BS5? A poll? The forum? Peter?!

Do you think we ought to run a BS5 poll to judge whether we think we're going to buy, ignore or wait now we've seen the launch specs and images?

Puncher: I'd drink with you in a bar anytime Funny thing is....I'm up in Darlington at Christmas. Oh god.

PhilLondon: Regarding TV prices, the problem is that we compare a Beovision to other TVs. My BV7 for example. Sure, if you use some of these 'features'. I don't use mine to play audio CDs. I use the PS3 for playing back my DVDs (Blu-rays). Sure, the stand is fantastic, but then I have to pay more for that for the priviledge. It's not

bayerische: But let's be realistic, you should not mix emotions with reason. Completely correct. Good post. It actually scares me when people post things like we should buy B&O as we all 'love' B&O. Sod that. I'll buy something if a) I think it adds realistic value to my life and b) it suits a requirement. This is why I keep

Puncher: Hey up Moxxey - I think we agree - I'm not arguing with you. Read my post again and I hope you find we're saying exactly the same thing (other than me pointing out I am now an ex-customer) Apologies. That's my fault for playing football tonight, drinking beer and then coming on here to post ;)

Bizarrely a new franchisee has just taken over the Bath store. Interesting time to take over a B&O store, heading in to a very unpredictable 2009.

Puncher: Again, we've had this convesation umpteen times and it is only a matter of time before someone joins the thread and points out that clearly we are not B&O's target customers. The thread is *about* how B&O's customers view B&O! See the topic. I don't think anyone as pointed out we're not B&O's customers

mbee: If B&O wants to focus only on stupid consumers.. Problem is, apart from Premiership footballers and lottery winners, there aren't many of these people around. People who have made money, tend to know how to spend money. For instance, I know a couple of people in Bath who have £2million in property. They're now investing their