[quote user="Jandyt"] I guess us gold chain owners need you sh1t-waders! [/quote] Isn't that a (pretty bedraggled looking) bird from the banks of the Zambezi? Or is it called that 'coz it keeps falling in?

[quote user="Jandyt"] Puncher! Are you gracing us with your presence tonight? It's going to feel like a Wednesday©! [/quote] I hope to last the distance (but then I've always been a bit of a lightweight - everywehre but on the scales of course) Isn't it funny that some folk rake in sh1t and come up smelling of roses - I just

Not only does he talk sh1te but he finds things in it too! Some people....................................

The watch for me please

This was a particularly revealing episode of Horizon, in which there's an interview with (I believe) an Australian scientist who lays out a timeline for renewable sources and the real need for nuclear (hopefully fusion) reactors - the numbers are really quite worrying

.............and it makes them brainer too!

[quote user="beocool"] I don't want to spoil the fun, but there is no such thing as a 4 litre V12 Jaguar. 4 litre Jag engines are either inline-6 or V8. V12 Jags are 5.3 or 6.0 litre. Sorry, just can't help myself. [/quote] We need to have words - you really should get out more!

On a positive note, can I ask what long term action folk have taken to help the situation? Lets start with - What car are you now driving (engine size etc.)? If nothing else we can preserve what's left of the earth's fossil fuels! We can use a 5 Door Ford Fiesta ECOnetic as a benchmark 1.6-litre TDCi Duratorq diesel with diesel particulate filter

We can talk about it until the cows come home - how many folk here are driving the recent generation of very small, highly efficent diesel cars to minimise their emmssions? How many have chosen not to purchase Large flat panel TV's because of the increased power usage? The list could go on and on - the point being most folk are aware but few have

[quote user="Jandyt"] I know, it amazes me when people say things like "Can someone tell me if such-and-such a servive manual is on site, then I can decide whether or not to join as a silver member?" £30 is a pint a month for a year! [/quote] ....................or two years where I live (mind you you haven't got to be