Did I retire? I know I was absent for a while, but that was to do with "the non-forum world" Good to be back though. Keep the knives sharp and all.

Glad to have you back, though. I do enjoy the sparring! I'm actually about to start my own B&O problem thread. We might be on the same side in this one...

No, actually I don't recall making that specific comment, though I do recall something about you're retirement from these sorts of arguments. I figured you were so dazzled by your Kuro that you'd forgotten about poor old Bang & Olufsen. How lucky we are to have you back. I look forward to future enlightenment.

Or by building in a self calibrating camera system to perform a calibration every 100 hours. But who would go to such lengths?

Would you like me to discuss the simple number of speakers or the actual quality of those speakers? Numerically you got more with the AV9000. Today you get qualitatively more with the BeoVision 7 & BeoLab 7-2.

What!? John! Are you serious about the AV9000 / BV7 comparison!? You could say the EXACT SAME THING! Please!

Puncher, what awards? Most Stickers Applied? Brightest Blue Light? Most Button Sizes On a Single Remote? Most Redundant Operations in a Single System? Attractive From The Fewest Angles? I'm afraid that while I see your point, none of the alternatives discussed here have any relevance to what we do. If Loewe were everything it should be then we might

After 8 years on the inside, I can honestly say that I've never met anyone at any level who was in it for the money. We all share a passion for what our company is doing and that has carried us through nearly 9 decades. If we were in it to make money, we'd be somewhere else, and most of us in other industries entirely.

Russ, I don't know if you just coined the term, but I'm going to start referring to online prices as "stump" prices. (And don't forget to have me tell you why they call CT the "Nutmeg" state.)

Puncher, I get what you're saying, but only about 1 single aspect of a complex product. The premise of your argument that we will never accept is that a television is ONLY its picture. The current video landscape is likely the most complex operating experience in the entire history of AV. I don't think many of us would argue that point. Customers