i had a loewe ( for 3 days ) , it was an experience i would rather forget terrible service , poor quality product and zero backup at least i got a full refund and put it towards something decent loewe strike me as bno wannabees without the depth of quality and sheer class that seperates bno from the herd as for the car analogy i'd liken them to

couldn't agree more if i couldn't justify buying a bno i'd buy a pioneer or sony loewe are imo pretty mediocre at best and the user interface reminds me of klingon , terrible UI and terrible remotes

VERY popgear ! LOL

i prefer this version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyas7BrbUFY& the bleeps 'say it all' enjoy , mr brooker ! :D

sadly , brooker actually thinks that way look up his stuff - the guy's a nut

i thought brooker came over as a pretty pathetic childish insecure creep tbh the mere fact he's so angry over what amounts to a box of silicon chips and a few wires doesn't say much for his being able to deal with reality then again he is a jurno after all..

this looks grate ! http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/22580/ eyetv elgato on the iphone / ipod touch AT LAST !!

this tv sounds excellent and just what bno should be doing from now on !

thought as much , it's a sky problem http://forum.beoworld.org/forums/p/20283/151167.aspx and looks like bno are not the only ones affected sorry , but sky's hardware is simply garbage of the lowest order( amstragic ) my box crashes EVERY day , while a sony hdr connected to my avant hasn't had one problem in over 3 years nuff said

what puts me off the bv9 apart from it's crazy price is the fact the hdr module only records the channel you are watching , which is quite simply utterly bonkers the only way round is to fit something like a sky box - and after my terrible experiences with those ( hd and sd models ) i'd be loath to do so