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If you have any questions about anything Bang &amp;amp; Olufsen related - please ask. If you have anything to say - please tell!</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2008 SP2 (Build: 31104.93)</generator><item><title>Re: Virage, the new Aston Martin Coupé and Volante, B&amp;O, see the photo's</title><link>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/316016.aspx</link><pubDate>Thu, 24 Feb 2011 05:17:33 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:316016</guid><dc:creator>Mr10Percent</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/316016.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=316016</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;burantek:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;The decision between the DB9, DBS, and now the Virage is the issue, OOPS... &lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The decision is down to your preferred driving style. When your spending that much money on a car, you need to know&amp;nbsp;what it does and what it does not. The performance is such in&amp;nbsp;these vehicles that one vehicle alone can not be all things to all men. The DB9 offers smooth relaxing GT crusing. The DBS is significantly&amp;nbsp;more punchier / agressive. This does not suit everybody - especially since (I presume) most modern Aston drivers will be +35yrs old, one style works, the other does not. I guess the Virage is somewhere in between to average the traits of both out.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Likewise, the V8 Vantage is more &amp;quot;chuckable&amp;quot; than the DBS but lacks the power. The V12 Vantage - well that is the most hardcore of the &amp;quot;normal&amp;quot; range (excluding One-77). It offers performance marginally above that of the DBS, with a very compact-bodied sportscar. However, the relatively hard ride in the V12 Vantage means it is probably not the best for cross-Continental GT crusing. I certainly find myself needing a break after say 5hours in the saddle with the V12V.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;So in essence, although they do look the same or very similar inside and out, with many identical parts, the way they are configured and handle&amp;nbsp;is vastly different to one another. You dont initially see that in the press reviews.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;10&amp;nbsp; &lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Virage, the new Aston Martin Coupé and Volante, B&amp;O, see the photo's</title><link>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315919.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:43:59 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:315919</guid><dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315919.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=315919</wfw:commentRss><description>Ok, I suppose it is just the V12 Vantage. Just looked at a bunch of pics online, the wheels look familiar. The one on top gear was prettied up a lot - looked incredible. I could have sworn it had a sporty name add-on. I could also be thinking of the GT4...&lt;/p&gt;&lt;/p&gt;I never really got into the One-77.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Virage, the new Aston Martin Coupé and Volante, B&amp;O, see the photo's</title><link>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315913.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:14:21 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:315913</guid><dc:creator>burantek</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315913.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=315913</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Evan:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;What is that ultra hyper V12 vantage called?&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Just that: V12 Vantage, or are you thinking of the One-77?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Virage, the new Aston Martin Coupé and Volante, B&amp;O, see the photo's</title><link>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315911.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:11:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:315911</guid><dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315911.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=315911</wfw:commentRss><description>What is that ultra hyper V12 vantage called? I completely forgot about that already... Which is embarrassing because when I first saw it, it immediately became my favorite car. On top gear it was a light blue color.&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Virage, the new Aston Martin Coupé and Volante, B&amp;O, see the photo's</title><link>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315909.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 12:02:12 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:315909</guid><dc:creator>burantek</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315909.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=315909</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;Mr10Percent:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;p.s. If you are confused with AML, then you should try and decipher Porches line-up.&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Yes
 indeed and that is exactly what I was thinking when I posted! Porsche into the late 
90&amp;#39;s an 00&amp;#39;s became impossible to decipher! I suppose they still are! 
Over the last few years though -I have seen AML seemingly headed down 
the same road.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I love your 4-8-12... that is certainly simple -but not really the issue.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;The decision between the DB9, DBS, and now the Virage is the issue, OOPS... discounting the 12 Vantages, I think! UGH! AAH! &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/37.gif" alt="Confused" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;SEE!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt; &lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/emoticons/58.gif" alt="Laughing" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Virage, the new Aston Martin Coupé and Volante, B&amp;O, see the photo's</title><link>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315897.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 10:50:13 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:315897</guid><dc:creator>Mr10Percent</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315897.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=315897</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;img src="http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/Themes/beotheme1/images/icon-quote.gif"&gt; &lt;strong&gt;burantek:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;div&gt;I was confused before, but now!?!?!&lt;/div&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;"&gt;It can be simplifed and distilled into a simple question.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;"&gt;How many cyclinders does it have?&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;4 &amp;ndash; Bad&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:x-small;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;span style="mso-spacerun:yes;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;8 &amp;ndash; Good&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;"&gt;12 &amp;ndash; Better&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;"&gt;If you should find yourself in one with 12 cyclinders, do not worry. You are in a special place irrespective of model.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;"&gt;If you should find yourself in one with only 8 cyclinders, also do not worry because you can still have a lot of fun.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;"&gt;If however, you find yourself in a 4 cyclinder one, either you are a) a chav, b) been punished for a wicked deed in your previous life or c) about to commit suicide via the exhaust pipe (which am I told will take forever) because everyone laughs at you.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small;"&gt;10%&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:small;"&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span style="font-family:Arial;font-size:small;"&gt;p.s. If you are confused with AML, then you should try and decipher Porches line-up.&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Virage, the new Aston Martin Coupé and Volante, B&amp;O, see the photo's</title><link>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315886.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 09:12:55 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:315886</guid><dc:creator>burantek</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315886.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=315886</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Lovely.&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;But... is it me or do they now have one of the muddiest portfolios ever? &lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Such similar product!&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;I was confused before, but now!?!?!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Virage, the new Aston Martin Coupé and Volante, B&amp;O, see the photo's</title><link>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315862.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:54:42 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:315862</guid><dc:creator>-multimedia Robert-</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315862.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=315862</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;And a Link to news site:&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;a href="http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1055753_aston-martin-virage-preview-2011-geneva-motor-show"&gt;http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1055753_aston-martin-virage-preview-2011-geneva-motor-show&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Virage, the new Aston Martin Coupé and Volante, B&amp;O, see the photo's</title><link>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315861.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:52:32 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:315861</guid><dc:creator>-multimedia Robert-</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315861.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=315861</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;More&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.UserFiles/00.00.00.23.71/Virage-cabriolet-interior.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Re: Virage, the new Aston Martin Coupé and Volante, B&amp;O, see the photo's</title><link>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315860.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:51:27 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:315860</guid><dc:creator>-multimedia Robert-</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315860.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=315860</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;Inside with Bang and Olufsen details&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.UserFiles/00.00.00.23.71/Virage-interior.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item><item><title>Virage, the new Aston Martin Coupé and Volante, B&amp;O, see the photo's</title><link>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315859.aspx</link><pubDate>Wed, 23 Feb 2011 04:49:15 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">41a2a90c-3a1e-4bd3-b144-3883695a7f38:315859</guid><dc:creator>-multimedia Robert-</dc:creator><slash:comments>0</slash:comments><comments>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/thread/315859.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://archivedforum.beoworld.org/forums/commentrss.aspx?SectionID=13&amp;PostID=315859</wfw:commentRss><description>&lt;p&gt;See here the news, Aston Martin Virage, known design, more sporty than the DB9&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;Regards, Robert&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;img src="http://forum.beoworld.org/cfs-file.ashx/__key/CommunityServer.Components.UserFiles/00.00.00.23.71/Virage.jpg" alt="" /&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div style="clear:both;"&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description></item></channel></rss>