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Re: Beocenter 9000 questions

BeoTom — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 21:12:49 GMT

Steffen:

A B&O CD changer..? I've never heard of that -please tell us more...

Hi Steffen,

The B&O CD Changer was a special model made for the North American market only (I'm not sure if any were sold elsewhere?) during the early 90's. It was actually just a Sony 10 Disc Car CD changer (magazine type)! Not much from the Sony was changed, not even the casing, it looked practically identical to the Sony. The only difference being that it had a B&O "controller" and 7 Pin Din cable, so it could be connected to a Beomaster's Tape 2 socket and be controlled by the B&O remote. I've heard they made it to "test the waters" for the demand for a real B&O CD changer (which of course brought us the BS9000), and because CD changers were very popular here in the early 90's, and were almost a "must have". I think they mainly sold them to BS 5500/6500/7000 customers, but they will work with other datalink capable Beomasters and Beocenters.

Tommy

Re: Beocenter 9000 questions

Steffen — Wed, 23 Feb 2011 18:34:57 GMT

A B&O CD changer..? I've never heard of that -please tell us more...

Re: Beocenter 9000 questions

thetandyman — Sun, 12 Sep 2010 14:01:37 GMT

My 9000 CD doesn't work most of the time, but I just added a B&O CD changer to the tape 2 input, and I have ten CD capability including the cassette and beogram 9000. I have been lucky to have aquired three of these changers (US) and use them on three systems in my home.

Re: Beocenter 9000 questions

joeyboygolf — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 11:20:28 GMT

Yes, they came with an Audio Terminal, a pre Beolink 1000 remote that looked like a Link 1000 and used all the Link 1000 codes. At least mine did when I bought it in 1986.

A genuine Beolink 1000 will do the job just fine.

$500 does seem rather a lot of money, even in the US. That's around £325 and I don't think any one would pay that amount in the UK considering the repair issues. You can buy a 9500 or 9300 for less than that.

Re: Beocenter 9000 questions

beotexas — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 08:56:24 GMT

reviving this thread- Did a remote come with the BC9000 originally? I have an option to buy a 9000 with a Beolink1000 remote for $500 USD. Looks clean and described as all working but cassette sounds muddy. I know value is the buyer's determination, but I wonder what these are selling for in the US. I think many B&O items are a little cheaper in Europe. With the 1000 remote included, this would put the 9000 at $400 USD. It would have to be shipped and seller seems knowledgeable on how to pack it securely. i have read most all threads here on this piece, and know the repair issues, but wonder what they sell for in the US. They are not up for sale often where I can see. Thanks.

Re: Beocenter 9000 questions

Stonk — Sun, 11 Jul 2010 07:02:52 GMT

Bump!

Brilliant Mdyarnell. 20e is well worth reverting a radio cassette back to a full Beocenter 9000. If I even had a fully working model I'd buy one off you just for insurance!

Hats off to you

Re: Beocenter 9000 questions

Mdyarnell — Sat, 10 Jul 2010 19:11:36 GMT

Hi all, I have indeed reproduced a suitable alternative to the infamous plastic disc. It takes me about two hours to produce one as I must lathe the disk down to a precise thickness and inlay a tiny lip on the underside. As long as the origional spring is intact, you're good to go. I have replaced the clamp on my 9000 and have also replaced one for a friend. I will produce them for 20e for anyone who wants one.

Re: Beocenter 9000 questions

BenSA — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:35:08 GMT

joeyboygolf:

I don't have one at the moment.

No problem, just thought I'd ask. Thanks for replying!

Re: Beocenter 9000 questions

Opman — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 17:15:31 GMT

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Craig:

One limitation I found was that you cannot set the Beocenter to Option 0. Or any other Option for that matter. So you got double commands when using the remote. Not sure if there was a later S.W. revision to cure this.

There is no software update to allow you to option programme this model. However a small piece of black insulating tape over the ir sensor is as good as option 0. Done it several times when connecting to an video master with speakers connected to the TV.

Opman

Re: Beocenter 9000 questions

joeyboygolf — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 16:17:11 GMT

I don't have one at the moment.

Re: Beocenter 9000 questions

BenSA — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:51:52 GMT

joeyboygolf:

Dillen:

The Beocenter 9500 is slightly newer than the 9000 but within recent years it too has
started to show CD reader faults (more than 95% of them fixable).
Stuck sliding doors and slipping belts, the cassette belts falling off, cracked solder
joints at the voltage regulators, bad muting relay, lose glass panels.
As with most things, there are many standard issues but all fixable.

I once started looking in to the Beocenter 9000 CD clamp but never cam up with a good fix.

Playstation, Discman and laptop CDrom drive clamps of different types have been tried without much success.
Maybe a reproduction of this part would be the way to go.

Martin

The 9500 exhibits most of the same faults as the 9000 as most of the components mentioned are common to all models in the range.

The exception is the CD clamping mechanism which is peculiar to the 9000. If the OP buys a 9000 and the plastic widget breaks up on the day after, he is left with a very pretty but large and expensive cassette radio.

There is no prospect, in the short to medium term, of an alternative being found or produced and it is unfair to state otherwise.

In the last 12 months I have scrapped at least 6 perfectly good 9000's for want of a 10p plastic widget. We have to face facts, the 9000 is as good as useless if you cannot play CD's.

Is it possible to purchase a 9000 that you are going to scrap?

Re: Beocenter 9000 questions

joeyboygolf — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 15:28:27 GMT

The fact that the cd is spinning would indicate that your issue is something other than the normal capacitor(s).

Re: Beocenter 9000 questions

Chrisreunion — Fri, 02 Jul 2010 13:51:23 GMT

Graham,

How can the capacitor issues on the CD section be overcome? I've just been given a BC9000 and the CD player indeed has some issues, it takes the CD, starts spinning and stops right after to re-open the sliding door...

Don't know whether this is due to the well-known cap. issue or to something else, though..

Re: Beocenter 9000 questions

TWG — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 03:03:37 GMT

if the plastic part is not too complicated I could imagine, that any talented modelbuilder could "clone" this part with resin or other synthetic materials!?Does anybody have a photo of the thing we're talking about?

Re: Beocenter 9000 questions

Dillen — Sat, 17 Apr 2010 02:08:10 GMT

Graham wrote:

"Of course, any problem can be solved if you thow enough money at it but with the
majority of threads on the forum championing how little that the poster has paid
for certain items or complaining that B&O in general is too expensive, I hardly think
that is going to happen!!!"

You have a point here.

The same was the case with the Beogram 6006/8000 tangential decks with the
common tachodisc problem. The Beograms sold for next to nothing as a repair was deemed impossible.
I had new discs made. It was a costly process but I've noticed that the going rate
for those Beograms went up, even for a defective one.
Actually some owners paid more for the tachodisc than they did for the deck itself but
a fully working and serviced tangential Beogram is worth considerably more than a broken one
and with that in mind, it is a justified investment.

If the CD clamp could be reproduced (and I'm sure it can), it will not be a 5p part and
the same pattern will show, I'm sure.
Even if some functions on the Beocenter 9000 can still be used with the CD player out of order (the Beogram
with a bad tachodisc was useless), the Beocenter 9000 will probably then see a price rise as well since it is
a very nice and classic piece with lots of fans.
But of course, that would spoil the bargains people make and like to tell the world about.

Martin